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>> i don't think the appointment of a special master is going to hold up. even if it does, i don't see it fundamentally changing the trajectory. i don't think it changes the ball game so much as maybe we'll have a rain delay for a couple of innings. >> all right, joining us now to discuss this, former secretary of defense under president donald trump mark esper. he's also the author of "the sacred oath: memoirs of a secretary of defense during extraordinary times." sir, thank you so much for being with us this morning. >> good morning. good to be with you. >> what are your concerns here about this latest revelation? >> well, with regard to the nuclear documents at mar-a-lago, it is very, very troubling that this type of information would be there, anywhere for that matter. we know at this point that there's been over a period of months 300 classified documents found at mar-a-lago. and that simply should have never happened in the first place.
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>> we spoke this morning with david sanger of the "new york times" who said trump was significantly more interested in the nuclear weapons efforts of north korea and iran than other countries. to be clear, we don't know from this report which country this is talking about. do you expect that this was information about the military, though, of an american adversary? >> well, we simply don't know -- exceptional interest in the nuclear capabilities or aspirations of north korea and iran, we all did for national security purposes. but we don't know whether it was a friend or a foe, and the issue is not just about the content of the report, but what it may reveal about our sources and methods and capabilities to find out and learn about another country's military capabilities. so that is a particular concern as well, which why i think it is all the more important that the intelligence community quickly conduct its risk assessment of
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what may or may not have been released at mar-a-lago. >> what are your concerns about that? as secretary of defense, you were read on to some of these programs that only, you know, a dozen or so people in government had access to. when you're looking at that kind of information, if that fell into the wrong hands, if that became public, what kind of risk would that put people, sources, methods in? >> well, you don't want your adversaries to know that you know what they have or what they can do because otherwise they change their capabilities, they change their own security procedures, et cetera. the same is true, of course, by the sources and methods. you don't want them to know how you're getting that information, whether through signals intelligence, human intelligence, you know, overhead surveillance, you name it. you safeguard all those things,
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because otherwise you compromise your access and thus your own nation's security. and that would be my principle concern and i'm sure a concern of most national security officials. >> if you were secretary of defense, you found out that in the prior administration the president, the former president had kept information this sensitive, what would you be doing? >> well, look, we exercise pretty strict document control at the pentagon. anytime we went to the white house, we would -- we knew how many copies we took over and how many we brought back and if i were sitting in that chair again, i would be very concerned about information released, which is why it is imperative that a thorough and quick assessment be conducted by the intelligence community so we can, again, assess the risk, and then understand how to adapt to it and see if maybe the adversary is making adjustments. >> we know that foreign na nationals, suspected spies have been arrested at mar-a-lago for trespassing.
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though clearly they have been suspected of doing worse than trespassing. do you worry they would have been able to gain access to classified information like this that was there? >> sure. look, you don't know what you don't know. and several of our adversaries have very capable intelligence operations. and so we just don't know the extent that these documents were available, exposed, discussed, maybe taken out of the storage rooms, who knows. that's why it's important to get to the bottom of this very, very quickly. >> i want to ask you about something else, which is a letter that you signed along with several other former defense secretaries, and former chairman of the joint chiefs, warning of vulnerabilities to a hallmark of american democracy, which is civilian control of the military and how these two roles relate to each other. i want to read part of this letter. it says, politically military professionals confront an extremely adverse environment characterized by the div divisiveness of effective polarization that culminated in
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the first election in over a k century when the peaceful transfer of political power was it disrupted and in doubt. >> civilian control of the military is a bedrock principle in our democracy. as is the importance of maintaining a political military. it was very important to me when i was secretary of defense and that's why i think all of us, the 13 of us, felt it important at this point in time to talk about these -- the best practices that have helped us maintain healthy civil relations over the past 200 plus years. it was that reason why we felt it important to speak about these issues. and, look, i have an entire chapter in my memoir about civilian control of the military. it is that important that we continue to reinforce these principles, best practices, and make sure that they -- we defend
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the institutions where these people work and reside. >> i agree with you as someone who takes an interest in civ mil relations. when you talk to people about this, i think their eyes glaze over because it can seem very academic, can seem very abstract. in very real terms, can you make the case for why this matters so much? taken to its logical end, and the destruction of civ mil relations, what kind of country do you end up living in? >> you never want your military to be politicized. you never want the perception of them taking sides for one political party or another, which is why i and others have always said we take an oath to the constitution, not to a party, not to a philosophy, not to a president. it is important we maintain that. otherwise we become a banana republic, right, that changes governments once as the military moves behind one faction or another. that's not what we don't have, i don't think we'll ever have it,
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but it is important to safeguard the institution and reinforce these core tenets, not just for the military, the people at the pentagon and the dod, but for the american people, which is why it is important that you and i are discussing this today, so we can have those discussions in town halls and classrooms across america, where people can discuss the importance of an apolitical military where civilian control is exercised as a bedrock of our democracy. >> how do you see president biden's role in that? look, i ask you that as someone who is part of an administration where i'm not sure that these civ mil relations have suffered more. we saw a lot of suffering of these relations, this bedrock principle as you're describing under president trump. he really took it to the limit. but what is president biden's responsibility as you see coming on the heels of that? >> look, i think every secretary of defense and chairman of the joint chiefs faces this at one point in time, where a president
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wants to do something or does something that they don't like, that they think touches the line, crosses the line, gets close to the line. that's not uncommon. you're right, president trump took it to a new level. but even president biden has had his moments. just the other night, the speech he gave in philadelphia was very political and i thought it was wrong to have the marine centuries standing behind him at attention in that speech. they were used as props. i don't think that was -- i thought that was politicizing the military by using those marines in the background. so those are the things we have to guard against. we have to talk about it and make sure we prevent from happening in the future. >> former secretary of defense, mark esper, we appreciate your time this morning. thank you. >> thank you. this morning, california's power grid struggling to keep up with surging demand amid a punishing heat wave. people there were warned for hours last night of the possibility of rolling blackouts, but that did not happen. cnn's natasha chen live in los
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angeles this morning. the good news, the rolling blackouts avoided, the bad news, sounds like it was really close. >> yeah, john, we narrowly avoided these planned rolling blackouts. that's because of how much intense pressure was on the state energy grid. power plants like this one, just on overdrive, and tuesday did see the highest peak demand of energy in state history. now, energy officials did issue an alert level three, the last level before those planned rollouts -- blackouts. and we started to get these push alerts on our phones. and something must have worked because let me show you this graph of the usage of energy last night that alert went out 5:17 p.m., about 30 minutes later you can see an actual dropoff of usage there. so people did really respond to this. this is all an indicator of just how record-breaking this event has been. not just the temperatures records that have been broken
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pretty much every day since this past weekend, but also how prolonged this has been days in a row without much relief and cooling overnight. and, of course, as some places like we have talked about don't even have central air because maybe once upon a time it wasn't as needed, that includes 40 denver public schools. so 30 of those schools are closing early this week, four of them closed altogether. of course, very dangerous fire behavior in this kind of weather as well. the fair view fire, southeast of us, is experiencing more acreage burned, only 5% contained right now. two people already died trying to escape that fire. and overnight, we saw more evacuations and warnings from there, john. >> so many challenges. natasha chen in los angeles, thank you so much. right now, the first day of school in seattle delayed after the union representing thousands of teachers and other professionals voted to go on strike. it is set to start here in about an hour. contract negotiations stalled over workload, class size, salary, and support for students
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in special and multilingual ed. nick watt is joining us live now from los angeles. this is some start to the school year here, nick. >> tens of thousands of kids should be waking up soon, getting ready for that first day of school, but they are not. and this is a decent-sized district, more than 50,000 kids, more than 6,000 staff, and many of them will in just a couple of hours be on the picket lines after the sunrises here in the west. here what he is happened. the deal between the union and the district expired about a week ago. then yesterday the union members voted pretty overwhelmingly to strike unless a deal was made by midnight. then the district kind of preemptively canceled the first day of school. and at two minutes after midnight, i got an email from the union saying that the strike was on. i'll quote a little bit, they say at this hour seattle public schools has failed to agree to a contract that adequately staffs
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special education and multilingual learners. and that provides pay that allows educators to live in the city where they work. now, the school district says that they are offering, quote, a substantial package, competitive pay, but, you know, none of this is a good look for either side. after all the chaos of covid closures, then staff shortages, and all the learning loss, it is not a good look. the school district today is offering free sack lunches to kids. the big question, how long will this last. well, we don't know. the union says it is going to last until a deal is struck. interesting to note that the kent school district, which is just a little bit south of seattle, they were supposed to start school nearly two weeks ago, two weeks ago tomorrow. but there is a similar labor dispute there that is still not resolved. so those kids are still not back. so all eyes on the negotiations again today to see if they can hammer this out and get those
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kids back into school sooner rather than later. >> look, the victims in this are kids because we have seen those test performances, they're not good. we're looking at a potential generation of remediation here and kids need to be in school. nick, thank you for that report. new this morning, long time trump ally and adviser steve bannon set to surrender to prosecutors in new york. the nation asked to be on the lookout for fat leonard, the mastermind of a major navy bribery scheme. and what to expect from apple's farout iphone 14 event. as a main street bank, pnc has helped over 7 million kids develop their passion for learning. and now we're providing 88 billion dollars to supupport underserved communities... ...helping us all momove forward financially. pnc babank: see how we can make a difference for you. enjoy two pancakes, two eggs your way, and two pieces of bacon for only $5. the two by two two from ihop. hurry in and enjoyhis deal for a mited time.
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long time trump ally steve bannon is expected to surrender thursday in new york to face charges for allegedly duping donors who gave money to fund building a wall along the u.s. southern border. the crowd fund-raising effort called we build the wall raised more than $25 million. according to prosecutors, bannon falsely told donors that all the money contributed would go toward the construction effort. now, federal prosecutors charged bannon with the same basic alleged crime in 2020, but donald trump pardoned him as he was leaving office. presidential pardons do not apply to state investigations. with me now is cnn's new chief law enforcement intelligence analyst john miller, he recently served as deputy commissioner of intelligence and counterterrorism for the nypd,
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award winning journalist who worked at abc news and cbs news and interviewed osama bin laden in 1998. it is great to see you again. welcome aboard. >> well, thank you. it is good to be here. >> here we go. let's jump right into it. steve bannon, going to surrender tomorrow, we understand, to state on state charges here and people might look at this and say, well, wait a second, we thought he was pardoned already for this, double jeopardy. why not? >> he was pardoned by president trump on the way out the door from federal charges saying that he was part of this scheme to divert money to personal use. but that pardons him from all federal prosecution. this is a state prosecution. it is an outgrowth of the manhattan district attorney's office, where they have done their own investigations, got their own documents, and shared information with the federal government back and forth. but legally no protection from
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state charges. that's what a presidential pardon doesn't deliver. >> and these are serious charges too, potentially. >> well, it is basically a million dollar fraud case where the call was donate money to build a wall, the front man was an ex-u.s. special forces person. seemed very patriotic. but when you went through the books, and you went through the million dollars that $300,000 went to this guy's consulting firm, a lot of it was bannon's expenses for travel and unrelated things, or so the charges allege, and it's a paper case, which is always hard to defend against. >> i want to dask you about something you were intimately involved with until recently, crime here in new york city. i think people might be surprised to see the statistics that show that the murder rate and shooting incidents actually down year to year. down 54% the murder rate,
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shootings down 30%. i want to focus on that for a second, if i can. how do you think that was achieved? >> well, i know how it was achieved because i was there. >> right. >> and that was achieved by extraordinarily smart deployments, which is the bronx was driving the shooting numbers for the city a year ago. they flooded the bronx with police officers on overtime. they flooded with the bronx with police officers working a sixth or seventh day, they shifted tours around, they were very strategic watching every shooting, every dot on the map and pushing resources there. and they were able to suppress that. they had done the same in brooklyn prior to that. and it's a live moving map. you put -- you find the dots, put the cops on the dots. the problem is that if you take the shootings and murders out, where this incredible suppression effort happened, and you look at the rest of crime, it is up 26%. >> that's what we had up on the screen there, that was my next
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question to you, which is why. how come you can get the murder right and shootings down, but robbery, felony assaults, and overall crime, all up? >> so, robbery, felony assaults, burglary, auto theft, larceny, which is just stealing without the use of force, these are the crimes that are skyrocketing. when you take the larceny, burglary, auto theft, these are all covered under new york's new bail reform laws which is criminals know, criminals have very good intelligence, as good as the police when it comes to collecting information and distributing that among each other, they know that there are certain charges where the judge in new york state, not just new york city, is legally prohibited, prohibited by law, from setting bail in that case. they know i commit the crime, if i get caught, i'll be out as soon as i get my hearing. now, that has caused recidivism, which was always a problem, to skyrocket. basically when you look at the
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larceny, the robberies, which are just larcenies where somebody tried to stop them, the burglaries, the auto thefts, we have people, john, coming from new jersey, where they have plenty of cars, to steal cars in new york city because they know if they get caught, they will not go to jail. >> all right, you also know and i think you probably saw some of this too, texas governor greg abbott is busing migrants from texas to cities across the country, including new york city here. what do you think of that move, and what kind of pressure did that put or does that put on city services? >> it puts a lot because when the federal government pushes people towards a place, the presumption is that that comes with financial support and backing. when the governor of texas starts to, as the new york mayor has called it weaponize migrants, and send them to new york and washington, by the hundreds and then the thousands, that comes with nothing but migrants. now, this city has a must
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shelter law, which means if someone asks for shelter, the city is bound by law by federal court ruling to supply that. so it puts enormous pressure on new york. new york is a place with a big heart. the mayor greeted the buses, the city service people have been there to say, we're here to help you, but at the same time, they're sending a team down to washington to figure out what are the mechanics of this, i'm sorry, sending a team to texas, to say what are the mechanics of this. they actually need to gather intelligence, because when you ask texas how many people are coming, when, how many, where they are they coming from, what is the background, all that, you're getting crickets. and the department of homeland security doesn't have much information, and ngos are very careful about what they'll share. so new york is kind of catching each one of these things as a fly ball, which is a lot of pressure on a city that already has a homeless problem. >> and how does it help solve the problem in texas? >> you know, texas can send those people wherever they want,
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but they have invested $12 million and, john, you have to ask yourself the question, if they took that $12 million, and they put that as aid toward immigrants, would it be more effective humanitarianly or less effective politically as a tool? >> john miller, great to see you again. look forward to conversations going forward. >> well, it's great to be here and thanks. the obamas making a return to the white house later today after a break in the decades-long tradition. and a historic ruling, an elected official has been removed from office for his participation in the capitol riot. it's time for the biggest sale of the year, on the sleep number 360 smart bed. why choose proven quality sleep from sleep number? because proven quality sleep is vital to our health and wellness,
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this afternoon, barack and michelle obama are expected to make a highly anticipated return to the white house to reveal their official portraits. the portrait ceremony is a long-standing tradition where the succeeding president honors the previous commander in chief, regardless of political party. as president obama hosted his predecessor, george w. bush, who hosted bill clinton, who in turn
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had hosted the elder george h.w. bush. but in a break with tradition, former president donald trump did not host the obamas during his presidency. joining us now is cnn senior political correspondent and anchor of "inside politics sunday," abby phillip. that brings us to what is actually unusual in that biden is going to be hosting obama. >> yeah. first of all, it is out of order. this is not the way that the order is supposed to be. it should have been trump, but i mean, we were discussing, i mean, think about how unusual it is actually in recent american history for a former vice president to host, you know, his former boss at the white house as president himself, that's very unusual. actually vice presidents don't ascend to the presidency all that often. and so that's what creates this kind of interesting dynamic here. i think today at the white house, it's going to be extraordinarily celebratory. this is a political party, the
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democratic party, that still very much loves barack obama. i think that he's still viewed as like an uber celebrity to the point where it actually is almost a little bit in contrast to president biden. i think obama casts such a long shadow over his party, and for him to return to the white house under a democratic president, i think will be a moment and probably not the kind of moment that there is, a, any precedent for or we might see again for quite some time. >> what about these reports we have read about a little obama world, biden world tension? is everything copacetic there? will any of that be on display? >> i really don't think that you're going to see any of that today. i mean, these are two men who -- president biden and former president obama, they got big egos. they would not have had those jobs if they didn't. and sometimes their staff, they carry those egos more than the principles do themselves. but that's, i think, a lot of
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that is in the background. some of it has to do with, you know, perhaps biden feeling like there is not enough respect coming from obama now that he's ascended to the presidency. biden not getting obama's endorsement in a democratic primary. but this is a different environment. and think about this moment that we're in for biden. he has just come off of a number of bipartisan wins and major legislative wins, the inflation reduction act, the infrastructure bill, his approval rating is starting to inch up again going into the midterms. i think this is a biden white house that is feeling pretty good. so if there is any time that they're going to want to host former president obama, it is probably this one, when they feel like they are on their best foot. >> it goes all the way back to, you know, obama folks going over to hillary clinton's side and sort of in a way sealing the fate that biden was not going to run. there was some of that as well. michelle obama has not been back to the white house, right, since
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obama left office. this is going to be a sort of big moment for her to be back. >> yeah. i think so too. i mean, talk about political celebrities and the democratic party. you can argue that michelle obama has -- has maybe even surpasses her husband in that respect sometimes. but it's actually very, i think it is very complicated for her. this is a first lady who probably would not have gone to the trump white house even if she were invited because of the sort of toxic environment between the trump family and the obama family. so it will be interesting to see how she is coming back now. i think she is probably happy that it didn't happen under trump, frankly because she blamed trump for endangering her family, for endangering her own personal safety and that bad blood, i think, i don't think that could have been papered
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over for a ceremonial moment like this. for all moments for her to come back to the white house, this will be one of them. also, i'm curious to see what the portraits look like. they have a history of trying to elevate unconventional artists, different artists in artwork about them. we'll see what they actually end up being. >> we saw how much buzz the portraits that are in the national portrait gallery got. it is going to be the same, we expect. abby gr abby, great to have you. catch abby on "inside politics" this sunday. we're learning a meeting between vladimir putin and chinese president xi jinping is in the works. we're going to be joined by epa administrator michael regan on the ground in jackson, mississippi. the latest on the water crisis there.
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the choice between prop 26 and 27? let's get real. prop, 26 means no money to fix homelessness, no enforcement oversight and no support for disadvantaged tribes. yikes! prop 27 generates hundreds of millions towards priorities like new housing units in all 58 counties. 27 supports non-gaming tribes and includes strict audits that ensure funds go directly to people off the streets and into there's only one choice. yes on 27. the roughly 150,000 residents of jackson, mississippi, are waking up for yet another day without clean running water. officials say water pressure has been restored, but the city remains under a boil water advisory and samples must go
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through two more rounds of testing for cleared for safe drinking. with us now is the administrator of the environmental protection agency, michael regan. administrator, thank you so much for taking the time to speak with us from jackson, this morning. tell us what the epa is doing now in jackson to monitor and to help remedy the city's water systems. >> well, thank you for having me this morning. you know, we're in jackson on the ground to do two things. the first is to continue working with our other federal partners, state and local officials, to ensure that we get this system back up and running as soon as possible. the other reason i'm here in jackson, again, is to meet with residents, to talk about what they're experiencing, how long they have been experiencing it, and getting their perspective as we design solutions for the future. listen, i'm here today to convene a meeting with the governor and the mayor, to ensure that as state, local and federal officials we're doing everything we can to complement the work that is happening right
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now around the clock to get this system back up and running. >> that boiling of water before this water pressure issue, before the whole water system failed, residents there had been dealing with that for weeks already. they have become immune to it in a way. and clearly it is no way for a city to be operating under repeated boil water advisories. how long is it going to be, do you think, until jackson will not be in that position? >> you know, we have got folks working around the clock, number one, to help get that pressure back up. number two, we're here to talk about the midterm and longer term efforts that we're going to undertake to ensure that the folks in jackson, the proud people of jackson, once and for all, don't have to live under a boil water advisory. i have a senior member of my staff from jackson, mississippi, who grew up on a boil water advisory, she doesn't want that
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for the next generation. this is an issue that predates all of us. it is a long-standing issue. and the purpose of president biden bipartisan's infrastructure law is to help cities like jackson recover from these incidents, and move forward without living under threat of a boil water advisory. >> the epa found the city of jackson didn't have adequate staffing for its water systems in march. can you tell us more about that? >> you know, we have been working with the city of jackson for some time to help with the staffing issues, to provide technical assistance, to get the city in the shape it should be. listen, when i was here over a year ago, i spent some time here in jackson, meeting with residents, talking with kids at elementary schools who can't continue their education, in the schools, that they would love to, because of low water pressure. we have been working with the state and the city of jackson for some time and we'll continue
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to do that. we'll continue to provide technical assistance, we'll continue to encourage the city to apply for the $30 million that is there and available to help the city get the water system back on track. and we'll continue to encourage the governor to make available the federal funds that we will provide to the state to assist jackson in its endeavors to provide the good people of jackson good quality drinking water like they deserve. >> more than 80% of the city of jackson identifies as black. flint, michigan, which also had a huge water crisis also a majority black city. and we're seeing this pattern time after time. what is being done to ensure that communities of color are not disproportionately impacted by these crises that are going to affect kids and other people for a lifetime?
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>> we know that the data tells us that exact story. black and brown communities are disproportionately impacted in this area and other environmental areas. and, you know, one of the great things about the bipartisan infrastructure laws, 40% of those resources, federal funds, that were pushing to the states, must go to disadvantaged communities. it is recognizing that black and brown communities, low income communities, have borne a disproportionate burden for far too long. jackson is no different. so what we're here to do today is convene state and local officials, talk with residents, and be sure that as these federal funds become available that they reach the recipients that we intend for them to reach, which are our black and brown communities. jackson is a prime candidate for the bipartisan infrastructure law, the federal funds that the president fought so hard for, so that, again, everyone in this country, no matter the race, the
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color of their skin, the zip code they live in, have access to good quality drinking water. >> administrator michael regan, we appreciate you being with us, thank you so much. >> thank you for having me. just moments ago, as new united kingdom prime minister liz truss faced questions from parliament, the former prime minister theresa may posed a question. >> can i ask my right honorable friend, why does she think it is that all three female prime ministers have been conservative? >> well, i thank my right honorable friend for her fantastic question. i look forward to calling on her advice from her time in office as i start, as i start my work,
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as i start my work as prime minister. it is quite extraordinary, isn't it, that there doesn't seem to be the ability in the labor party to find a female leader. indeed a leader who doesn't come from north london. >> i don't know what the issue is. >> well, look, that's not something you see in the united states, first of all, because, you know, former presidents don't end up back in congress. just doesn't happen. but in the uk, you're a member of parliament, you go back there, you can ask questions. a little bit of a layup, but, again, something you don't see in the united states. >> what i liked was even -- it seemed in good spirits, right, even the folks who are kind of being roasted, and you can see who they were, but they were also kind of having a little enjoyment at just the spirit of things. >> you saw him roll his eyes.
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the choice between prop 26 and 27? let's get real. prop, 26 means no money to fix homelessness, no enforcement oversight and no support for disadvantaged tribes. yikes! prop 27 generates hundreds of millions towards priorities like new housing units in all 58 counties. 27 supports non-gaming tribes and includes strict audits that ensure funds go directly to people off the streets and into there's only one choice. yes on 27. the beginnings of a stroke captured on live tv. two news oklahoma anchor julie chin suffered a medical emergency on air when she became confused and stumbled over her
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words. >> tulsa -- the tulsa air response space museum at the -- at the -- at the event -- the event features live -- i'm sorry. something's going on with me this morning. and i apologize to everybody. let's just go ahead and send it over to meteorologist andy brown. >> after tossing to the weather, the production team called 911. she spent the weekend being tested at the hospital. doctors believe she experienced the beginnings of a stroke but thankfully not a full stroke. with us now is chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta. sanjay, i watch that and i have to say that was scary to see that right there. how common is something like that, and how can you avoid it? >> well, it is not common, thankfully. it is scary. it can sometimes be difficult to figure out, you know, just from a neuroperspective. i'm a brain guy. what you're looking for is in her case she was having difficulty forming the words with her mouth, you could tell
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she was having difficulty finding the words as well. and that obviously is concerning. you see it transpire on live television. we now know that in her case, as you point out, it sounds like it was the beginning of a stroke. there was a similar episode, this has happened in the past as well, back in 2011, you may remember this with serene branson. >> let's go -- >> again, difficulty finding and forming words there. and in serene's case that was a migraine, an ocular migraine that caused those symptoms. it can be difficult to parse out what is happening there. in julie chin's case, she's 47 years old, she would go to the hospital, what we subsequently learned as well is that she had some difficulty with her vision, she actually became numb on the right side of her body as well. and that's why the doctors thought it may be what is called a tia, transient ischemic attack, or the beginning of a
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stroke. but it sounds like she's recovering well. what you mentioned at the end, they called 911 right away. no matter what, no matter what you think is going on here, that is the right decision. that's the right thing to do because time really matters here. and people have oftentimes heard this acronym fast, but they made it be fast now. and people should memorize this. but be fast stands for finding if someone has difficulty with balance, that's the b, e is eye problems of some sort, face, facial drooping is the f, arms, you put the arms out, see if there is drifting or weakness of the arms, difficulty speaking, and then call 911. the quicker someone can get to the hospital, certain things can be done to try and mitigate how strong an impact that might have. >> one of the things you notice there is she is having a hard time reading and yes, forming those words, but when she goes to just say, like, i don't know what's going on, i'm going to send it over to the weather person, she speaks fine.
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so it is this maybe it is a part of the brain or i don't know, what do you think that was, sanjay? >> i think that she was having a few things. one is that it was the forming of words, but also she had difficulty with her vision. her vision started to go blurry. maybe she was reading teleprompter, something earlier on and then she had a sentence she knew well, and she was tossing and that came more easily. it can be difficult to figure out, but with the stroke, several different areas of the brain could be affected at the same time. give than she had right sided numbness, most likely that was affecting the left side of the brain. left brain controls right side of the body. and that may have been what was causing her speech difficulty as well. we don't know for certain, but after testing, the doctors thought that at some point there was not enough blood flow getting to that part of the brain and that's now corrected itself. >> look, i'm just glad that she got the help she needed. i'm glad she had people around her who took the care to call 911 during weather to make sure that she was okay right there.
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and also she knew, she could tell something was going on there. and just so glad that it worked out the way it did. sanjay gupta, doc, always great to see you. thank you so very much. >> thank you. >> sometimes you see someone doing our job having issues, it hits close to home. cnn's coverage continues right now. very good wednesday morning to you. i'm jim sciutto. >> good morning, everyone. i'm poppy harlow. this morning, stunning new details about just how sensitive the classified documents were that the fbi seized last month in that search of mar-a-lago. "the washington post" reports that one of the highly classified documents found described a foreign government's nuclear capabilities. let me read you part of the reporting, quote. some of the seized documents detailed top secret u.s. operations, so closely guarded that many senior national security officials are kept in the dark about them. only the presi


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